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Reply #350 - Dec 11th, 2017 at 2:17am
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I'm thinking of how I might reinforce the bookcloth so it will hold up on such a large book. *sigh* Leather would probably be better but I'm stretching my skills to the breaking point now. Someday, maybe.

Right now, I'm thinking of adding a layer of heavy/craft weight pellon to the bookcloth -- at least along the spine space --  and maybe a strip of horsehair braid along the top and bottom to strengthen it. So much thinking..... Smiley
  

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Reply #351 - Dec 11th, 2017 at 11:12pm
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Well, the decision has been made.
The Spates Catalog will have a spine glued to the cover material but not to the textblock. While moving stuff I found our very large medical dictionary and found that a.) it does not have a solid spine and b.) in spite of relatively light handling, there is a small rip at the top of the spine which wouldn't be there if it had a solid spine. Sooooo..... I'll be adding some instructions to the bookbinding word document tonight. It should still lay reasonably flat and I suppose that if it doesn't, I'll live with it until I can start over... Smiley
  

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Reply #352 - Dec 12th, 2017 at 12:31am
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I wonder if fabric paint will "stick" to bookcloth. I will have to experiment....

I've been looking stuff up -- didn't use too many megabytes fortunately -- and adding it to the word document. My brain is nearly fried and it's only 7:30 pm here. I may be figuratively "brain dead" by the time Skywise gets home. I hope tonight's shift isn't as bad he thinks it will be....
  

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Reply #353 - Dec 12th, 2017 at 7:16pm
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It was.

The book I was expecting arrived and it didn't have the information I wanted. I found a picture that I can use during an internet search and I "think" I can figure out where that step in the process goes. I say think because the lack of sleep is starting to catch up with me. I hope Skywise got enough sleep to get him through until tonight.....

Damn, I'll be glad when he retires!
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Reply #354 - Dec 13th, 2017 at 12:31am
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I think I've FINALLY found all the instructions I need. Some of the illustrations leave something to be desired and "my" prose could probably be clearer but all the instructions I need are in order and in one document rather that being scattered across the internet and a couple of books! I still need to find out if fabric or acrylic paint will "stick" on bookcloth -- Sharpies won't -- and I'm pretty sure that one detail I'd really love to do won't be possible 'cause it only seems to be possible when the cover is leather since leather "molds" so nicely before the finish is applied. I've put those ideas aside for some future project. Provided, of course, that I survive this one! Smiley
  

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Reply #355 - Dec 13th, 2017 at 2:16am
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I have been "translating" excessively wordy British English bookbinding instructions into "tighter" American English. The guy that wrote them seems to "know" bookbinding but he does NOT know how to write clearly and succinctly. *sigh* A problem shared by far too many bloggers...

My head hurts....
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Reply #356 - Dec 13th, 2017 at 7:49pm
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The instructions say I "need" another tool which I'd have to make 'cause no one seems to be selling them. I'm tired of having to make tools. I think that a small Phillips screwdriver would substitute nicely. That or a small icepick......
  

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Reply #357 - Dec 14th, 2017 at 5:28am
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I've been getting bits and pieces of a GB fanfilm script out of my head. I've figured out the current "Big Bad" and the climatic threat -- which is ambitious -- and some of what leads up to it but it still needs more thought.
  

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Reply #358 - Dec 18th, 2017 at 5:39am
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Given its size, the Spates Catalog really should have what is called a Split Cover Binding. Which is a double thick book cover that has the mull (that's the part that holds the "book" a.k.a. the textblock in the cover) sandwiched between two boards. The only problem is that the bookcloth cover is put on after the textblock is glued in place.
Now that would be unwieldy under the best of circumstances. The Spates Catalog textblock is going to measure 15½ inches by 12 inches by 2½ to 3 inches by the time the folios (that's "pages") have been sewn together, compressed and glued to the mull. The prospect of gluing a cover on an object that size gives me considerable pause, to put it mildly! Sooooooo... I have to figure out the necessary steps to do it the way I want to which is to glue the "inner" cover board to the textblock and the outer cover to the bookcloth cover and THEN glue the two covers together and finish covering them.
I may need some "custom" equipment.....
MORE custom equipment.....
  

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Reply #359 - Dec 18th, 2017 at 11:33pm
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I have spent odd moments today trying to figure out how to avoid putting the bookcloth on the Spates Catalog before putting the textblock in and I've come to the conclusion that there is no way to do that soooo....... I'll be doing it the hard way. I'm going to need to make another tool and have lots of room to work -- not to mention patience! -- when the time comes....  Smiley
  

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Reply #360 - Dec 19th, 2017 at 1:23am
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I've transcribed the instructions I need for a split cover. I'll edit it later.
  

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Reply #361 - Dec 21st, 2017 at 5:53am
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The New Year is going to be crammed with new GB comics. The five issue Answer the Call comic which started last month -- and has been delayed due to illness and hurricanes -- will lead off. The 2018 Annual featuring a new version of the Spirit of Halloween will be out early in the year -- I'm not sure when since I can't dig through Facebook to check  Smiley Smiley -- and a multi-reality crossover titled appropriately enough "Crossing Over" in which EVERY SINGLE INCARNATION of Ghostbusters take part when every containment unit in existence -- or at least all of theirs -- break open as a result of a scientific mishap. The fact that the ATC Ghostbusters will be taking part AND are apparently popular enough to do so will drive the ATC-hating manbabies right up the wall.
CAN'T WAIT!
I'll be broke but happy.....
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Reply #362 - Dec 23rd, 2017 at 8:05pm
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I picked up a "prop" blank book today. It has a red cover which is what I visualized for a scene in the second GB fanfilm I'm writing. Don't know what's going to be in it except that it is a journal belonging to an early 1900's paranormal investigator.....

I'm hoping that next week I'll be able to start on the Spates Catalog and once I get space cleared out in the basement, I'll get my pack building shop set up and FINALLY get started on the proton packs.
  

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Reply #363 - Dec 26th, 2017 at 2:56am
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I'm sitting here thinking about an impressive box to keep the Spates Catalog in since it's been known to have "unusual" properties. Something to build much later. I'm also thinking about life sized models of "non-canon" ghosts to use as part of appearance displays. Putting them in plexiglass "containment units" with some suitable techno-jargon that would explain why they weren't trying to get out would probably work....

I'm pretty sure that a drone and some sort of kite arrangement would be possible for parade appearances....
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Reply #364 - Dec 26th, 2017 at 7:57pm
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There are apparently two official novelizations for the 1984 Ghostbusters movie. I just tricked Amazon's software into letting me order the one I don't have.

Post # 66,555 for the site.
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Reply #365 - Dec 27th, 2017 at 12:13am
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Penthesilea wrote on Dec 26th, 2017 at 2:56am:
I'm pretty sure that a drone and some sort of kite arrangement would be possible for parade appearances....

Great minds thinking alike and all that. Someone -- several someones in fact -- have already done it. There are several overpriced "drone ghosts" available on Amazon but more inventive, imaginative and scary ones are online in the "Do it Yourself" category. "Make" has a particularly nice selection -- although the one made with a taxidermied cat  did not amuse me in the least! Smiley So when the time comes, we won't have to reinvent the wheel.....
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Reply #366 - Dec 30th, 2017 at 1:11am
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Ghosts moving via drones has given me all sorts of ideas for "practical effects" ghosts which would be less expensive and time consuming than CGI ghosts although not transparent.... Smiley
  

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Reply #367 - Dec 31st, 2017 at 2:38am
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I picked up more PVA glue and thread for the Spates Catalog today. Since I can't make it exactly like the one in the comics I'm going to make it a little more elaborate. Red satin ribbon bookmarks in the binding for one thing. For another, the end papers are going to be made of black construction paper with as an elaborate knotwork design on them -- front and back -- as I can create, the idea being that the knotwork will help keep "things" from crawling out of the book as they are apparently prone to try.
I was able to start work on the sewing frame today. The punch cradle looks simpler but it's more finicky to assemble so I'm doing the sewing frame first. Then I'm going to see what I can do on the proton packs with minimal workspace available.  Smiley
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Reply #368 - Dec 31st, 2017 at 9:29pm
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I was able to get the last parts I need to make the sewing frame and a book press big enough for the Spates. Things should start moving forward provided I don't freeze on the way to the Guest House! Smiley
  

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Reply #369 - Jan 5th, 2018 at 11:13pm
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The sewing frame is done -- I let the glue dry during the coldest days. One side slipped so the gap is ¼ inch on one end and nearly ⅜ inch on the other.  Smiley I "think" that the adjustment I made will compensate for that. If it doesn't I'll glue another piece of plywood on the top and make sure that the gap is even!
  

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