This might explain my problem with obsessives who can't seem to let me go. 

I think it's true that this helps get the energy you need and/or find a willing donor if you are a sang.  Definitely never had any problems.

Penthesilea wrote on Apr 18^th, 2007 at 7:28pm:




Sorry, if I made it sound that way, I didn't mean for it to.

To break it down:

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Some people can't.  They get emotions confused with reality.  This is not always just on the vamps part -donors can also form a very significant attachment and attribute more to it than there is.  For psi feeders, many are also empathic to some degree, and if they have not previously learned to separate their emotions from those of others, this can be a real concern. For psi donors, this relationship is often as intimate as a lovers relationship, as they are exposing their inner self, their essence, to another person - something rarely done outside of very close interpersonal relationships. Most psi-vamps don't bother to teach their donors to shield, not considering the consequences of that link beforehand, and thus leaving both themself and the donor open to a potential issue of obsessiveness/posessiveness.

Especially in repeated situations, this becomes an issue. Repeated feedings from the same source, whether intentionally done or not, creates a link.  The more that link is used, the more intense the feelings become, and the harder it becomes to separate emotions from purpose.

Genuine affection is difficult to determine under normal circumstances, let alone one such as this. I think what you look at is this: take away that bond - what do you have? (Gotta be honest though... which people aren't always good at.)

For Sangs... it's a little different.  Rarely do a sang/sang exchange, as this creates one of those bonds that go well beyond the norm.   However, each person they feed from becomes a part of them, in a way.  Essentially, it is the same thing - but with blood, rather than energy.

ETA: Blood-bonding tends to be extremely intense, especially if the 'psychic' senses are awakened as well.  Hence my above-reference to the rarity of a sang/sang exchange. If it's done, it's typically done for exactly that purpose - bonding.  A lot of people also believe that two sangs cannot get what they need from one another unless one or the other (usually the stronger) also has an outside donor.

I'm always wary of anyone claiming to want to be a sang donor, or anyone looking to do any sort of blood-play.  Maybe that is me being paranoid... but blood is a powerful tool, and I wouldn't share mine with just anyone - so I'm a bit leery of anyone who is willing to give theirs freely and openly without some other sort of bond beforehand. (And there are PLENTY of those types of people out there.  Eh.)

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To some?  Yes.  That's all they are.  For me personally, no.  


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Aha, the never ending ethical battle of the vampire.  The short answer is: some people have no morals, and therefore need no justification.  Others just don't care.

Those of us that do... are more picky and careful about who and what we take.

FuryRising wrote on Apr 18^th, 2007 at 8:07pm:





I would also think that the fact of fatal blood borne diseases would also be a consideration.

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FREE CLINICAL TESTING!!!

People that don't get it done are crazy, IMO.

That would make you a very good and very understanding friend.

Both of my donors (yep, that's it - two ) have been very close friends, and remain very close friends.

Honestly, the idea of a stranger... kind of gives me the heebie jeebies, but I guess as long as people are safe about it...

FuryRising wrote on Apr 18^th, 2007 at 10:06pm:

Sorry. I had more thoughts and editing them in tied them together best.  "Automatically becomes part of the larder" comes straight from the book so I can't take the credit or blame for that one.    The term "predator" was also from the book but I have heard vampires of my acquaintance use that term to refer to themselves so I assume that is how they thought of themselves. At the core, all humans are predators to a greater or lesser degree. It is hardwired into us from thousands of generations of "hunter/gatherer" ancestors.
Truth in relationships can be a difficult goal to achieve  even "ordinary" relationships in which no outside forces -- such as needing to feed -- are present. People hide the truth from their partners as well as themselves in order to keep things going smoothly. They hide truths from themselves that they don't want to face for whatever reason. And sometimes, no matter how much you want it to work, it doesn't, no matter how hard you try.

And sometimes after "it falls into place", it falls out of place because people grow and change and not always at the same pace or at the same way. The phrase "the only constant is change." is very true I'm afraid.

My mom referred to that as "Wasting a good "worry"."    My mom was a champion in the worry department and I do tend to follow in her footsteps.

The first thing I can recall worrying about was if my mother was going to die. I was around 5 years old at the time. And since my father and grandfather had already died and my mother was having surgery, it was a valid concern.

And once she had recovered, the whole family sat me down and had me decide who my guardian would be if she died. Kinda took the "child" out of childhood.

By the time I was in my teens, my mom said that I was "older than she was." She was nearly 33 years older than me. I still cling to the hope that, someday, I will get to be young.

Thanks.